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How Scoop Brothers Grew From a Two-Brother Side Gig to About 700 Customers and a Franchise

Daniel Sturgis, Founder ·Scoop Brothers · Charlotte, NC

Built Local Podcast with Clay Lawrence · · 22 min episode

The short version

Daniel Sturgis started Scoop Brothers, a pet waste removal company in Charlotte, North Carolina, as a part-time side gig with his brother in 2018. He ended his first year with 98 customers, pushed past plateaus at 100 and 250 with referrals and a focus on quality, and now has about 700 recurring customers. The company recently began franchising, with Kansas City as its first new market, and its Google reviews have grown from about 102 to 405.

What other owners can take from Scoop Brothers

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    Do not wish for 100 customers in the first week. At 100 you need an employee, a truck and a wrap, and you have to learn how to run those first.

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    Once you have 100 customers, ask how they can bring you the next 100. About half of Daniel's referred someone when he started asking.

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    Keep the referral reward small: a free service worth about $20, or a $20 gift card for someone who is not a customer.

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    Skip the constant specials. Daniel saw no difference in incoming customers when he ran them, so he stopped giving the service away.

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    When growth stalls, look inside the business: a tech causing recleans, weak retention, missing add-ons, or marketing that needs an A/B test.

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    Protect quality with a grid pattern, notes and photos on every yard, and the same tech at the same house.

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    Do not hand everything to a manager too early or load one person with too many jobs. Daniel says it snowballed and went downhill when he did.

How did Scoop Brothers start?

Scoop Brothers started in 2018 as a side gig. Daniel Sturgis was working in construction when he came across the idea through a family friend who was scooping yards in Florida. The appeal was simple: low overhead.

He and his brother worked for the same company on opposite schedules, two weeks in town and two weeks out, so the schedule worked. Soon after they started, his brother moved into a manager role that kept him away about three weeks at a time. Daniel kept going on his own and kept the name. In a small town, he said, a family name reads as trustworthy.

He ran it part-time for two years, then went full-time. Today the company serves Charlotte, Monroe and the area to the south.

How did Scoop Brothers get its first 100 customers?

With a homemade flyer and free Facebook groups. Daniel made the first flyer in Word with clip art. “It looked like a little kid made it,” he said. He printed about 50 and hung them everywhere, and posted in local Facebook groups asking who would pay for the service. The first post got nothing.

He kept at it. His goal for the first year, which began in February, was 100 customers. He finished the year at 98 and got to 100 on January 3.

He does not think new owners should want it faster. “You can’t just grow a business immediately. You got to figure out how to have employees,” he said. A hundred customers means an employee, and then a truck, a wrap and everything else that comes with one.

What got Scoop Brothers past 100 customers, and then 250?

Referrals got it past 100. Daniel started asking how his first 100 customers could bring him the next 100, and about half of them referred someone. A customer who refers gets a free service, worth about $20. Someone outside the customer base gets a $20 gift card.

He does not run many specials. He saw no difference in incoming customers with or without one, so he stopped giving weeks away.

He stalled again around 250, bouncing between 240 and 255. His checklist for a plateau:

  • Is one employee causing recleans that lead to cancellations?
  • Is retention the problem?
  • Are there add-on services to offer? Scoop Brothers adds yard sprays and fly control.
  • Has the marketing gone flat? Change it and A/B test.

How does Scoop Brothers keep customers?

Quality comes first. “Most people want the numbers, but you can’t really have the numbers without quality,” Daniel said.

In practice that means walking a grid pattern, picking up in mulch and rocks, sending the same tech to the same house, and keeping notes and photos on every yard. He hires for common sense, because it is easy to walk past a pile, and uses incentives to fight the complacency that comes with 30 to 40 houses a day.

He tells his techs they are in a yard more often than the lawn crew or pest control, and that one miss is all a customer remembers.

What was his biggest mistake?

Stepping back too early. While he was busy setting up the franchise, Daniel gave one manager the backup scooping, the crew and the customer calls. That person’s plate was full, communication broke down, and it snowballed.

He said he was at around 500 customers when a manager made sense, but the real answer depends on how much you need to take out of the business. A manager sits on payroll without bringing money in the way a tech does on every yard.

He still wants customers to feel they are dealing with a small business. When someone calls him, he treats that person as the only customer he has at that moment.

Why franchise a pooper scooper business?

Daniel used to talk down every franchise he competed with. Once he looked into it, he decided franchise owners were doing the same legwork he had done, under a shared name. He chose a franchise group whose core values and support matched his, so that when an owner calls, someone answers. Franchising also lets buyers use SBA loans, and it lets him help other people into a simple business. Kansas City launched the month before the episode.

His advice to a scooper in the grind: keep moving, learn something new, and get the name out, online or on foot. “If you’re lazy with it, it’s not going to work.” He said he is still looking for the secret sauce himself, and that the looking is what moves a business forward.

In Daniel's words

“You can't just grow a business immediately. You got to figure out how to have employees.”
Daniel Sturgis, Scoop Brothers▶ 4:50
“Most people want the numbers, but you can't really have the numbers without quality.”
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“52 weeks out the year, you're good, but that one week that comes, we're the worst company in the world just because of that one time.”
Daniel Sturgis, Scoop Brothers▶ 10:55
“If you're lazy with it, it's not going to work. It's not for everybody. So either figure it out or stop wasting money.”
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Review Harvest Client

What Scoop Brothers says about Review Harvest

Daniel says Scoop Brothers stalled at 102 or 103 Google reviews while he was personally sending every email blast and text message. After moving to Review Harvest, where he was one of the first pet waste companies on board, the count grew to 405. He says most people who sign up tell him they were reading the reviews.

“I don't have to do nothing and it brings me clients.”
Daniel Sturgis, Scoop Brothers · hear it at 17:39

Daniel Sturgis on working with Review Harvest: “From 100 to 405 Reviews: Why Automation Wins”

Questions this episode answers

How many customers does Scoop Brothers have?

Founder Daniel Sturgis says Scoop Brothers has about 700 recurring customers in the Charlotte, North Carolina area. Its first franchise market, Kansas City, had 25 to 30 customers four weeks after launching. The company has been in business since 2018.

How did Scoop Brothers get its first customers?

Daniel Sturgis made a flyer in Word with clip art, printed about 50 and hung them everywhere, and posted in free local Facebook groups. His first post got no response, but he kept going. Running the business part-time, Scoop Brothers ended its first year with 98 customers and reached 100 on January 3 of the next year.

How do you grow a pooper scooper business past 100 customers?

Daniel Sturgis of Scoop Brothers hit plateaus at about 100 and again at about 250 customers. After the first 100 he leaned on referrals, and roughly half of his customers referred someone. His advice for a stall is to find what is not working: an employee causing recleans and cancellations, retention, add-on services, or marketing that needs a new approach.

What referral program works for a pet waste removal business?

Scoop Brothers gives an existing customer a free service for a referral, which costs the company about $20. People who are not customers get a $20 gift card when someone they send signs up. Daniel Sturgis keeps the reward small on purpose and does not run many discount specials, because he saw no difference in new signups when he did.

When should a pooper scooper owner hire a manager?

Daniel Sturgis says his biggest mistake at Scoop Brothers was stepping back too early and loading one manager with backup scooping, crew supervision and customer calls. He says he was at around 500 customers when a manager made sense, but that the right point depends on your lifestyle and how much you rely on the business's income, since a manager is on payroll without directly bringing in money.

Why do Google reviews matter for a poop scooping business?

Daniel Sturgis of Scoop Brothers says the star rating and review count are the first thing people see when they search, often before the company name, and a high count signals experience. He says most new customers tell him they signed up after reading the reviews. Scoop Brothers has 405, up from about 102.

Need pet waste removal in Charlotte? Visit Scoop Brothers at scoopbrothers.com.

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