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How Swoop Scoop Grew From 0 to 2,700 Pooper Scooper Customers

William, President ·Swoop Scoop · Coeur d'Alene, ID

Built Local Podcast with Clay Lawrence · · 27 min episode

The short version

William is the president of Swoop Scoop, a multi-million dollar pooper scooper company operating in multiple states, and the founder of the Poop Scoop Millionaire community. He and his business partner Levi went from 15 or 20 customers to 350 in three months once they started social media ads, passed 900 the next year, and peaked around 2,700. He credits a short list of marketing channels, pay for performance, quarterly and annual billing, and positioning as the least risky company to hire.

What other owners can take from Swoop Scoop

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    Do not wait for the perfect name, logo, website and truck wrap. William says the biggest mistake he sees is the time and money spent before the first customer.

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    At 15 to 20 customers, optimize your Google Business Profile, ask every customer for a review, and put spare budget into Google Ads.

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    Bill less often. Swoop Scoop found that customers on quarterly or annual billing stay longer and bring cash forward for the spring rush.

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    Pair a price increase with an offer: keep the old rate by moving to quarterly billing, or save more by paying for the year.

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    Pay scoopers a flat share of route revenue so speed and quality are both rewarded, and callbacks cost them their own time.

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    Go through a lot of applicants to hire one person, and let a bad fit go within a week or two.

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    You do not have to be the cheapest. Compete on speed, ease, or being the least risky company to let into a backyard.

How did Swoop Scoop start?

Swoop Scoop began as a side bet between two school friends. William came from digital marketing and had already partnered with an operator to build an electrical company, which he said went from zero to seven figures in about five or six months. His friend Levi, who he had known since elementary school, wanted to start something with him but had no trade.

The idea came from home. William’s wife was pregnant, nobody was picking up after the dogs, and the pooper scooper she hired was unreliable and billed everyone through Venmo. William decided to try it himself. He thought it might make an extra thousand dollars a month.

The early days were rough. Levi threw rocks around his backyard and timed how long it took to scoop them up, so he could work out what to charge.

How did Swoop Scoop go from 20 customers to 350 in three months?

By adding paid social ads at the right time of year. Levi spent a couple of months grinding out the first 15 or 20 customers with door knocking, visits to vets, door hangers and free Facebook groups.

William then looked at advertising. There was almost no search volume for pooper scooper terms, but the Facebook groups were working, so he tried social media ads. The timing landed in the first quarter, the busiest season, and the company reached 350 customers in the next three months.

For the first two years the ads paid for themselves. Swoop Scoop spent $30 to $40 to win a customer who paid $100 for the first cleanup and then stayed on a recurring plan. In year two it went from about 350 to over 900.

Today the top channels are Facebook ads, Google ads, SEO and truck wraps, and they feed each other: the more the company spends on Meta, the more people search for the service. Yard signs are the one he calls underrated. Their cost per customer is lower than Facebook’s, and the company bought about 20,000 of them.

Asked what marketing move mattered most recently, William said they narrowed down. Early on the company tried TV ads and billboards; now it concentrates on the few channels that work and on knowing its numbers. “I’d say if anything that we’ve changed is we’ve actually done less.”

How does Swoop Scoop hire and pay scoopers?

Slowly on the way in, quickly on the way out. In the early rush Levi would train someone for 30 minutes and have that person train the next three. Now an office manager and a supervisor at each location handle hiring, mostly through Indeed, and the company reads more than 100 resumes for each hire. Someone who is not working out is gone within a week or two.

Pay is a flat 21% of the revenue a route generates. A route that brings in $1,000 pays $210. A callback sends the scooper back on their own time, so quality and speed pull in the same direction.

How does Swoop Scoop raise prices and keep customers?

It bills less often and gives customers a way around the increase. The path from ad to customer runs like this:

  • Ads send people to the website’s instant quote tool, which collects a phone number and sends a price.
  • Anyone who does not sign up gets a call from the sales team and an automated text sequence.
  • At signup the company offers odor control and quarterly or annual billing.

William said the less often you bill, the longer people stay. Close to 30% of customers now pay quarterly or annually. When a price increase of about 10% went out, customers could keep their rate by switching to quarterly billing or save more by paying annually. The notice goes by regular mail and states the change as a small weekly amount.

That prepaid money, hundreds of thousands of dollars in his telling, funded marketing for the spring rush.

For past leads and former customers, the offer that works is a free first cleanup. An initial cleanup takes about 45 minutes on average and costs the company around $25, and most signups come on the second message, sent with a 48-hour deadline.

Where do pooper scooper companies get stuck?

At the start, then at about 150 customers. William said new owners lose time on names, logos and truck wraps instead of finding a customer. At 50 to 70 customers they have to decide whether to quit a job. Past 150 the work changes to hiring, training and managing, and many stall at 250 to 300.

Churn grows with the business. Losing 3% to 5% a month means Swoop Scoop sometimes has to replace more than 100 customers in a month.

Why position as the least risky company instead of the cheapest?

Because price is only one of four ways to compete. William named price, speed, ease of use, and risk. Swoop Scoop is, he said, probably among the more expensive companies, so it sells reliability: background-checked employees, wrapped trucks, a call center, cover when someone is out sick, and more than 300,000 yards cleaned.

The company is in due diligence to acquire another operator and plans new locations, with a goal of about 3,500 customers after the next spring rush.

In William's words

“We'll go through over 100 resumes just to hire one pooper scooper right now.”
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“The less frequent you bill people, the more likely they are to stay, and also the more money that you can actually bring forward for the company.”
William, Swoop Scoop▶ 15:33
“I'd say if anything that we've changed is we've actually done less.”
William, Swoop Scoop▶ 21:27
“Everybody just assumes that to try to get customers, to compete, you got to be the cheapest. But there are other things that you can do that add value to customers.”
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Review Harvest Client

What Swoop Scoop says about Review Harvest

William says Swoop Scoop has over 1,600 Google reviews with Review Harvest's help. A team member, Tanner, manages it for him, and he says it is easy to hook up each time the company opens a new location.

“I got Tanner managing it now for me, so I don't even have to do everything. Everything's totally seamless. He's having a good time. We're popping up new locations. Really easy to get it hooked up and get it going.”
William, Swoop Scoop · hear it at 25:57

Questions this episode answers

How did Swoop Scoop get to 2,700 customers?

Swoop Scoop spent a couple of months getting its first 15 to 20 customers by knocking on doors, talking to vets, hanging door hangers and posting in Facebook groups. It then started social media ads going into the first quarter and reached 350 customers within three months, and went from about 350 to over 900 the following year. William says the customer count peaked around 2,700, driven mainly by Facebook ads, Google ads, SEO, truck wraps and yard signs.

What should a pooper scooper business do after its first 15 to 20 customers?

William of Swoop Scoop says to get the Google Business Profile set up and optimized, collect reviews from the customers you already have, and put any extra budget into Google Ads. He says Swoop Scoop's cost to acquire a customer is lower on Google Ads than on any other channel, and those customers stay longer because they were searching for the service. He would not spend much effort on automations at that size.

How does Swoop Scoop pay its pooper scoopers?

Swoop Scoop pays scoopers a flat 21% of the revenue their route generates. William says it rewards cleaning quickly, and a missed yard means going back on their own time without earning more. He says some scoopers make close to $30 an hour, and that the company aims to pay better than other local entry-level jobs.

How do you raise prices in a pet waste removal business without losing customers?

Swoop Scoop announces its annual increase by mail with a plain explanation that costs such as fuel and insurance are going up, and states it as a small weekly amount. With one increase of about 10%, customers could keep their rate by moving to quarterly billing or save more with annual billing. William says close to 30% of the client base is now on quarterly or annual billing, which reduces churn and brings cash forward.

When should a pet waste removal company add upsells?

William says Swoop Scoop did not add anything until it had more than about 1,500 customers, but a new company could start right away. Odor control is the example: a two-minute spray that fits into the route and now brings Swoop Scoop over $100,000 a year. He advises against unrelated services such as lawn care or gutter cleaning.

Where do pooper scooper businesses usually stall?

William sees three points. Getting from zero to the first customer, where people overthink the name, logo and website. Around 50 to 70 customers, when the owner has to decide whether to go full time. And around 150 customers, when the job becomes hiring, training and managing people, with many companies stuck at 250 to 300 as monthly churn of 3% to 5% grows with the customer base.

Need pet waste removal in Coeur d'Alene? Visit Swoop Scoop at swoopscoop.com.

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