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How Poop Bandit Lands $3,000-a-Month HOA Pet Waste Contracts Without Ads

Mike Wright, Owner ·Poop Bandit · Winter Garden, FL

Built Local Podcast with Clay Lawrence · · 39 min episode

The short version

Mike Wright started Poop Bandit in Central Florida in 2017 as a job for his oldest son, then went all in during 2020 and built it around HOA pet waste contracts instead of backyards. His first HOA signed at over $3,000 a month through a friend's referral. He says he now gains about 20 HOA accounts a year and loses about four, and that he built the company with almost no advertising.

What other owners can take from Poop Bandit

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    HOA work is sold through referrals, not ads. Start by asking the people already in your phone who they know on a board or at a management company.

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    Meet the decision maker in person and send the agreement the same day. Mike's first HOA signed within a week of the introduction.

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    Do less talking than the manager does, so you learn what their problem is before you offer to solve it.

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    Treat manager turnover as a pipeline. A manager who trusts you will bring you into the next community they are hired to run.

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    Service the pet stations and trash cans, not the common areas. Once residents see someone in uniform scooping, they stop picking up.

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    Count the hidden costs before you chase HOAs: dispenser bags, a dumpster, a warehouse and a truck that needs washing every day.

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    Learn where managers gather. Mike points to the Community Associations Institute, where community managers go for training and certifications.

How did a consultant to billionaires end up running a pet waste removal company?

Mike Wright started Poop Bandit in 2017 to give his oldest son a job. The idea came up over a taco dinner with his wife in the middle of the week, and he had the brand and the company running within 24 hours.

For most of his career Mike had done something very different. He recruited household staff for billionaires: butlers, private chefs, personal assistants, nannies and estate managers. He also ran a trade association for domestic staff for about a decade. “It was definitely a suit and tie endeavor,” he said.

Poop Bandit stayed tiny until 2020. When his son left for the Marine Corps, the company had 8 to 10 customers, and Mike spent a summer deciding whether he really wanted to be, in his words, “a poop picker upper.” He went all in, landed his first big HOA account in September 2020, and treated 2021 as his first full-time year.

How did Poop Bandit land its first $3,000-a-month HOA contract?

Through a friend of a friend. Mike asked a family friend who had recently gone into real estate to have coffee, hoping she might refer home buyers with dogs. At that meeting in the real estate office, he heard about a community where the pet stations and trash cans were always overflowing and missing bags, from a realtor who lived there and knew the HOA president.

She made the introduction the next day. Mike got on the phone, then asked to meet in person, which he called “always a bonus if you can do it.” He met the president that same week, sent an agreement the day of the meeting, and it came back signed.

That contract was over $3,000 a month for 65 trash cans and 30 pet stations, serviced multiple days a week. It is still his largest HOA, though he now has several above $3,000. “I was all in after that because I was like, oh, I can pay my mortgage now,” he said.

How does he keep winning HOA contracts without advertising?

By treating it as relationship and referral marketing. Mike said he stopped paid advertising in November 2021 and did not start again until the January before the episode. “You’re not going to throw out $3,000 worth of Facebook ads and a bunch of managers are going to reach out to you,” he said.

What he did instead:

  • Dropped off donuts and listened. He got to know association managers the old-fashioned way and let them do most of the talking, so he could learn what mattered to them.
  • Went where managers go. He pointed to the Community Associations Institute (CAI), the organization community managers use for professional development and certifications.
  • Did the job so well he was hard to replace. A new manager or board usually wants to trim the budget, and someone will always bid lower. His answer is to go over the top on service and never let the answer be no.
  • Followed managers when they moved. He has been through six managers at one $3,000 account. Managers who leave take his number to their next management company, and the manager arriving is often someone he already knows.

Most of the time the pet stations are being handled by a landscaper who does not want the work, which makes it easier to win.

What does an HOA pet waste contract actually cover?

Poop Bandit empties the pet station bins and the community trash cans, refills the bags, and cleans up anything within a 10 to 15 foot circle of each station. It does not scoop the common areas, and Mike will usually talk a manager out of asking.

His reasoning is simple. As soon as residents see someone in uniform picking up dog waste, they decide their dues cover it and stop using the stations. Then there is more waste everywhere, the next resident sees it and gives up too, and the community has wasted what it spent on stations. When he shows a manager the budget for his program next to the budget for scooping everything, he said, it is “kind of a no-brainer.”

HOA contracts or residential customers: which is better?

Mike runs both, on separate routes, and gave an honest list for each.

HOAs: his accounts average about $600 a month. Scheduling is forgiving, since a manager does not mind Tuesday instead of Monday as long as nothing overflows. Churn is low; he loses about four accounts a year and gains about 20. The costs are real, though. He buys about $4,000 a month in dispenser bags, pays $800 to $1,000 a month for an eight-yard dumpster emptied every weekday, needs a warehouse, and washes the trucks daily. It is also a slow build, and losing one $3,000 account “stings a lot worse than losing five residential customers a month.”

Residential: customers average about $100 a month, sign up online through Sweep&Go, and can be added quickly if your ads are dialed in. Many of his have never spoken to him in years of service. The trade-off is that they expect you on the exact day, so when a technician calls in sick, the owner goes out and scoops.

What would he tell a scooper thinking about HOAs?

Get out and meet people, even if it does not come naturally. Mike called pet waste removal a great industry for introverts, but said HOA contracts require relationships, and that they take time to pay off. “If you expose yourself to danger enough times, something good is going to come out of it,” he said.

He also does not worry much about new competitors or franchises that undercut local pricing. In his view they cannot erase a five to eight year relationship with a manager.

In Mike's words

“The HOA business is really more of a referral-based business in my opinion.”
Mike Wright, Poop Bandit▶ 8:05
“You want to do less talking than they do so that you can learn how they tick.”
Mike Wright, Poop Bandit▶ 15:48
“If somebody's going to come in and beat me down, they're going to have to pack a lunch. Probably a couple.”
Mike Wright, Poop Bandit▶ 19:05
“If you're good at what you do, it can really pay off because you have customers that are sticking around for many years.”
Mike Wright, Poop Bandit▶ 31:29

Review Harvest Client

What Poop Bandit says about Review Harvest

Mike says Poop Bandit had Google reviews in the mid-30s, maybe fewer, when it started with Review Harvest, and picked up about 35 in roughly three weeks. It had 98 at the time of the episode, with only 8 to 10 new residential customers a month to ask and HOA managers who rarely leave reviews. He says that makes Poop Bandit the most reviewed pooper scooper in Orange County, with only one other in Central Florida ahead of it.

“I think I doubled my review number. I think I got like 35 reviews in like three weeks or something with you guys.”
Mike Wright, Poop Bandit · hear it at 36:44

Mike Wright on working with Review Harvest: “From 30 Reviews to Almost 100 With Review Harvest”

Questions this episode answers

How do you get HOA contracts for a pet waste removal business?

Mike Wright of Poop Bandit says HOA contracts come from referrals and relationships, not ads. His first one came from a coffee meeting with a family friend in real estate, which led to an introduction to an HOA president the next day. He met the president that week, sent an agreement the same day, and it came back signed at over $3,000 a month. After that he dropped off donuts at management offices, listened to what managers needed, and got involved with the Community Associations Institute.

What does an HOA pet waste contract include?

Poop Bandit empties the pet station bins and community trash cans, restocks the bags, and picks up any waste within about 10 to 15 feet of each station. It does not scoop every common area. Mike says that once residents see someone in a uniform scooping, they stop picking up after their own dogs, which makes the problem worse and the service far more expensive.

Are HOA contracts better than residential poop scooping customers?

They are different. Mike says his HOA accounts average about $600 a month, scheduling is more forgiving, and churn is much lower: he loses about four accounts a year and gains about 20. Residential customers average about $100 a month, can be won much faster with ads, and rarely need a conversation, but they expect you on the exact day and leave more often, usually because they move.

What does it cost to service HOA pet stations?

More than a residential route. Mike says Poop Bandit buys about $4,000 a month in pet dispenser bags and pays $800 to $1,000 a month for an eight-yard dumpster that is emptied every weekday. He also says you need a warehouse once you pass a few HOAs, and the trucks have to be washed every day.

Do HOA pet waste contracts only work in Florida?

Mike thinks they work best in warm states with large communities, such as Florida, Texas and Arizona, but can work elsewhere for the right person. In northern states he expects smaller jobs: a community with two or three pet stations or a gazebo with a trash can, rather than a resort-style clubhouse with miles of trails.

How did Poop Bandit become the most reviewed scooper in its county?

Poop Bandit had Google reviews in the mid-30s when it started using Review Harvest, and Mike says it added about 35 in roughly three weeks. It had 98 at the time of the episode, which he says makes it the most reviewed pooper scooper in Orange County, Florida. That is with only 8 to 10 new residential signups a month and association managers who rarely have time to leave a review.

Need pet waste removal in Winter Garden? Visit Poop Bandit at poopbandit.com.

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