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How a 22-Year-Old Grew Pooch Scoop From 9 to 100 Poop Scooping Clients in Under Four Months

Max Newcombe, Founder ·Pooch Scoop · Philadelphia area

Built Local Podcast with Clay Lawrence · · 38 min episode

The short version

Max Newcombe, a 22-year-old college dropout, started Pooch Scoop, a pet waste removal company near Philadelphia, about three weeks after watching a YouTube video. He had nine clients on January 1 and signed his 100th on April 23 by offering the first cleanup free with a one-month sign-up and spending roughly $3,000 to $4,000 a month on Facebook ads at about $100 per new customer.

What other owners can take from Pooch Scoop

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    Start in local Facebook groups. An honest post saying who you are and that you just started got Max seven of his first nine clients.

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    Offer the first cleanup free in exchange for a one-month sign-up. At about $95 a month, you are still paid for the two hours the first month takes.

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    Skip the contract. If you are confident in the service, a one-month commitment is enough and most clients stay.

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    Expect winter and spring to be the busy season, and turn paid ads off in summer when demand drops.

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    Ask for the review right after the first cleanup, at the customer's highest point of satisfaction, and send a photo of the work.

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    Treat other scoopers as allies. Most homeowners do not know the service exists, so their marketing grows your market too.

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    Spend the slow season on retention. Max handwrote a note to every client and hand-delivered it with dog toys and treats.

Who is Max Newcombe and how did Pooch Scoop start?

Max Newcombe is a 22-year-old who started Pooch Scoop, a pet waste removal company near Philadelphia, about nine months before he sat down with Built Local. He had spent about three years going in and out of junior college, convinced he would make millions day trading. He said he lost about $30,000 doing it, ran through his savings, ended up about $5,000 in debt and moved back in with his dad while delivering pizzas.

Then a YouTube video about a man who made $2 million with dog poop showed up in his feed. “This is just a no-brainer,” he said. “I feel like I can’t not give this a shot.”

About three weeks later he had the legal work done, social accounts and a Google Business Profile set up, and a logo made with ChatGPT. He opened a local Facebook group and the first post he saw was a woman asking for someone to scoop her backyard. She became his first client, and Pooch Scoop still scoops her yard.

How did Pooch Scoop go from 9 clients to 100?

Facebook groups got the first nine and paid Facebook ads got the rest. His second client was one of his best friends growing up. In December he picked up seven more by posting honestly in local groups: his name, that he had just started the company, and that he wanted to scoop dog poop.

On January 1 he had nine clients. He joined the Poop Scoop Millionaire community, learned about the spring rush, and started running paid ads. He burned about $1,400 in the first week before he worked out what performed. From there he spent roughly $3,000 to $4,000 a month and paid around $100 to acquire each customer.

He signed his 100th client on April 23. During that stretch he was the only scooper. Some days he was in yards from sunup to sundown, then texting leads, billing and marketing until he fell asleep. He hired his first employee in May.

Why does Pooch Scoop do the first cleanup for free?

Because it converts, and the math still works. Spring first cleanups are yards nobody has touched in months, so they take an hour or two and sometimes three or four. Some companies get paid $100 to $200 for that visit. Max does it free and asks only that the customer sign up for one month, with no commitment after that.

His reasoning:

  • A weekly client takes about 15 minutes a visit plus drive time, so the rest of the first month is roughly another hour of work.
  • The average monthly ticket is around $95, so he is still paid about $95 for two hours.
  • A small percentage cancel after the first month, but he said most clients stay about two years on average when churn is kept down.

“If you’re confident in the value of your service,” he said, you do not need to lock people into a contract.

The free cleanup was also when he asked for reviews. He would text a photo of the bags (his biggest job filled 15) and ask the customer to take 30 seconds to leave a five-star review if they thought he did a good job. He now uses Review Harvest to send those requests.

What happens to a poop scooping business in the summer?

Demand drops, so Max stops advertising and works on retention. Most people expect scooping to be a summer business. In his market the busy months are January through March, especially when the snow melts, because nobody wants to go out in the cold to clean up. In summer people are in their yards, walking their dogs and going on vacation.

On August 22 he was still hovering right around 100 clients. He had turned paid ads off completely, and roughly one client cancelled or paused for each one that came in from Google, word of mouth or Facebook groups.

He credits low churn to being the face of the company. Over the summer he handwrote a letter to every client and delivered it to their door with a gift bag of dog toys and treats chosen for their dogs. He does not fight cancellations either. “Whatever you need, we’re here for you,” he said.

How does he think about competitors?

He decided to work with them. When he started there was one established company with a much larger service area. A few months in, new scoopers appeared and began making posts like his. He worried at first, then took a lesson from Alex Hormozi: a new company holds a sliver of the market, so there is no sense fighting over 2% of it when most homeowners do not know the service exists.

He got on the phone with the new companies, asked for their service areas and days, and offered to send them clients he could not serve.

What would he tell someone just starting a service business?

Keep going, and copy the people who are already where you want to be. Max watches their content and reaches out to ask how they would handle a situation.

His goal is 500 to 600 clients by the end of the next busy season. “It might be unrealistic,” he said, “but I’d rather shoot for five or 600 and get 350 than shoot for 200 and get 200.” In the meantime he has bought a vehicle and is building lead follow-up and email automations in GoHighLevel.

In Max's words

“I'd rather shoot for five or 600 and get 350 than shoot for 200 and get 200.”
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“I'd rather us build each other up than tear each other down.”
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“If there are people in a position that you want to get to, they know how they got there. They can probably show you how to get there too.”
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Review Harvest Client

What Pooch Scoop says about Review Harvest

Max met Clay at ScoopCon and signed up afterward. He says Pooch Scoop had about 88 Google reviews at the time, got around 20 more within the first week, and reached 122 a little over a month in. His favorite part is not having to send the requests himself, and he says a much higher share of customers now leave a review than when he texted them by hand.

“From 80-something to 122 in a month is crazy. I'm baffled. I don't know what you guys do, but I know you do it right.”
Max Newcombe, Pooch Scoop · hear it at 32:15

Max Newcombe on working with Review Harvest: “From 88 Reviews to 122 in Just 1 Month”

Questions this episode answers

How did Pooch Scoop get to 100 clients so quickly?

Pooch Scoop, a pet waste removal company near Philadelphia, had nine clients on January 1 and signed its 100th on April 23. Founder Max Newcombe got the first nine mostly by posting in local Facebook groups, then ran paid Facebook ads through the spring rush, spending roughly $3,000 to $4,000 a month at a customer acquisition cost of around $100. His offer was a free first cleanup for anyone who signed up for one month.

Why would a poop scooping company do the first cleanup for free?

Max Newcombe of Pooch Scoop says a free initial cleanup converts far more leads, and the numbers still work. The customer signs up for one month at an average of about $95, and the first cleanup plus the month's weekly visits come to roughly two hours of work. He says most clients stay around two years on average when churn is kept down, so the free visit pays for itself many times over.

When is the busy season for a poop scooping business?

For Pooch Scoop the busy months are January, February and March, especially when the snow melts. Max Newcombe explained that in winter people do not want to go outside to clean up, while in summer they are in their yards, walking their dogs and going on vacation. He stopped paid advertising in summer and was still at around 100 clients in late August.

How much should a new poop scooping business spend on Facebook ads?

Max Newcombe spent about $3,000 to $4,000 a month on Facebook ads during his first spring at Pooch Scoop and paid around $100 per new customer, depending on the campaign. He also said he burned about $1,400 in his first week before he learned what worked. His goal for the next year is to bring that acquisition cost down.

How does Pooch Scoop keep customers from cancelling?

Max Newcombe credits low churn at Pooch Scoop to being the face of the company and knowing his clients personally. Over the summer he handwrote a letter to every client and delivered it to their door with a gift bag of dog toys and treats. He also lets people cancel without a fight, so they are comfortable coming back later.

How should a poop scooping company deal with competitors?

When new scooping companies appeared in his area, Max Newcombe of Pooch Scoop called them, asked for their service areas and days, and offered to refer clients he could not serve. His view is that each small company holds a tiny share of the market, and the real competition is homeowners not knowing the service exists. Competitors' ads raise awareness for everyone, and ranking high on Google is how you capture it.

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