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How Junk Jockey and Bullseye Movers Grew From $370K to About $1.2M on Referrals

Campbell, Co-owner ·Junk Jockey and Bullseye Movers · Atlanta, GA

Built Local Podcast with Clay Lawrence · · 36 min episode

The short version

Campbell started Junk Jockey in the Atlanta area at 15 with a Nextdoor post, a rented trailer and his dad driving him to jobs. He later added Bullseye Movers, which is now about 65% of the business, and says revenue went from $370,000 one year to about $1.2 million the next without running Google Ads. Most of the work comes from a referral program that pays customers $50 in cash and a first-job-free offer that wins over real estate agents and other partners.

What other owners can take from Junk Jockey and Bullseye Movers

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    Pay referral rewards in cash, not credit. Junk Jockey deposits $50 in the referrer's bank account and gives the new customer $50 off.

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    To win a referral partner who has no reason to trust you yet, do one job for their client for free. Campbell offered a $750 job with no obligation.

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    Look for the people who know hundreds of likely customers: real estate agents, retirement homes, storage facilities, organizers.

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    Pick one service and get very good at it, with written procedures and KPIs, before you add a second.

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    In moving, set expectations up front and repeat them: on the estimate, the day before, the morning of, and at the walkthrough.

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    When something breaks, tell the customer within minutes and arrive with a plan to fix it. Waiting for them to find it looks like hiding it.

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    Check in with key employees and ask what would make their work easier. Campbell learned that when a manager of three years quit without warning.

How did Junk Jockey start?

Junk Jockey started with a Nextdoor post from a 15-year-old. Campbell was making $8.50 an hour at a pizza place and did the math on how many hours it would take to earn a million dollars. “I was like, this isn’t going to work,” he said.

He had seen other teenagers in his parents’ neighborhood hauling junk with trailers, so he posted on Nextdoor asking if anyone had junk they wanted removed. A lot of people did. He rented a trailer from a friend, and because he could not drive yet, his dad drove him to the appointments.

He kept the business alive through a year at Auburn. He left after his 6 p.m. Friday class, drove back to Atlanta, hauled junk all day Saturday and Sunday, and left around 4 a.m. Monday to make his 8 a.m. classes. During the week an employee ran the trailer while Campbell answered customer calls from the hallway outside his lectures.

What turned a side hustle into a real business?

COVID did. It sent Campbell home, customers started leaving junk on porches and in garages, and he says the business grew about 300 to 400%. He bought a first dump truck, then a second, and did not go back to college.

At about $60,000 a month in revenue, he was flooded with calls and had no idea how to handle insurance, a website or standard operating procedures. He asked his dad, who owns a technology company and had worked for IBM, to become his partner. They are 50/50, and his dad now works in the business full time on the systems, accounting and technology while Campbell runs the people side: selling jobs, managing crews and making sure the work gets done.

Today the company runs five trucks. Campbell is 25 and the business is 10 years old.

How does Junk Jockey get customers without Google Ads?

Through referrals and networking. Campbell said the company has never run Google Ads and only recently started Facebook ads.

The referral program runs on its own:

  • When a job is marked done in Workiz, the company’s CRM, the customer is pulled into a referral tool that creates an account and sends an email and text explaining the program.
  • If a referral books and pays, the referrer gets $50 in cash deposited in their bank account. It is not a gift card or a credit.
  • The new customer gets $50 off.
  • There is no cap. A real estate agent who refers every client can earn thousands of dollars a year.

Getting those partners in the first place is the hard part, especially for a 20-year-old walking into an office. Campbell’s answer was to give the first job away. He told agents, retirement homes and storage facilities to hand one client a free $750 job, with no obligation. Once they saw the work, they had a reliable company that also paid them.

It still costs money, he said, but each of these “super spreaders” knows hundreds of people who need the service. “They’re basically a salesperson for you.”

Why did a junk removal company start Bullseye Movers?

Because customers kept complaining about their movers. Campbell heard the same things again and again: movers broke items and would not fix them, arrived three or four hours late, or canceled on move day for a better job.

He waited until junk removal was repeatable, with procedures and KPIs, before adding it. He wants the company to be “the Chick-fil-A of junk removal,” the same service every time. He started moving three or four years ago, and it is now about 65% of the business, with local moves and long-distance moves across the lower 48 states.

How does Bullseye Movers keep moving customers happy?

By over-communicating and owning damage right away. Campbell pointed out that a move ranks with a divorce and a death among the most stressful things people go through, and sometimes they are happening together.

Bullseye’s approach:

  • Set expectations up front. If the customer says they will move the lamps and does not, they are told in advance it will cost more and the move may not finish that day.
  • Repeat it. The office calls the day before, the crew calls on the way, and the move manager does a walkthrough on arrival.
  • Report damage immediately. The crew manager sends operations a picture, and operations calls the customer within five minutes with a plan.
  • Fix it either way. Campbell said they have paid for repairs even when the item may already have been broken.

Where is the company headed?

Campbell’s goal is a $100 million company in about 10 years, when he is 35, and he does not plan to sell it. Revenue went from $370,000 one year to about $1.2 million the next, and he expects to double again.

His view is that marketing is the easy part and consistent delivery is the hard one, so the company builds the procedures for the next size first and then turns up the marketing. The biggest lesson so far was about people. A key manager of three years quit without warning and put Campbell back in a truck. Now the company checks in with its crew regularly, and he says morale went “through the roof.”

In Campbell's words

“You cannot do everything. You have to pick one thing and you have to get really good at it.”
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“Money doesn't really matter. It's the people. The people are the most important part.”
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“If something breaks, immediately own it.”
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“I want people to be so surprised by how good we are that they can't ever forget it.”
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Review Harvest Client

What Junk Jockey and Bullseye Movers says about Review Harvest

Campbell says that in 10 years of chasing customers and relying on his CRM to ask for reviews, the company collected about 80 five-star Google reviews. About three weeks into Review Harvest, with almost 100 new reviews in, he said that number had doubled. Host Clay Lawrence noted the reactivation campaign to past customers was converting at over 20%, where 10 to 15% is typical.

“We've been in business for 10 years and we had like 80 five-star reviews on Google. Now, in the last two weeks, I think we've doubled that.”
Campbell, Junk Jockey and Bullseye Movers · hear it at 33:15

Campbell on working with Review Harvest: “How This Local Moving Business Added 110 Google Reviews in 1 Week”

Questions this episode answers

How did Junk Jockey get started?

Campbell started Junk Jockey at 15 while earning $8.50 an hour at a pizza place. He posted on Nextdoor asking if anyone had junk they wanted removed, rented a trailer from a friend, and had his dad drive him to the jobs because he was too young to drive. The Atlanta-area company now runs five trucks.

How does Junk Jockey's referral program work?

When a Junk Jockey job is marked done in the company's CRM, the customer is automatically enrolled in the referral program and sent an email and text explaining it. If someone they refer books and pays, the referrer gets $50 in cash deposited to their bank account and the new customer gets a $50 discount. There is no limit on referrals, so a real estate agent who sells a lot of homes can earn thousands of dollars a year.

How do you get real estate agents to refer a junk removal company?

Campbell of Junk Jockey offered partners such as real estate agents, retirement homes and storage facilities a free first job for one of their clients, worth $750, with no obligation to use the company again. After seeing the service, they had a reliable company that would also pay them for referrals. He calls these partners super spreaders because each one knows hundreds of people who need the service.

Why did Junk Jockey add a moving company?

Junk Jockey's customers who were moving kept saying their movers broke things without fixing them, showed up hours late, or canceled on move day. Campbell had already built repeatable procedures for junk removal, so he started Bullseye Movers to do moving with honest estimates and constant communication. He says moving has become about 65% of the business.

How does Bullseye Movers handle damage during a move?

At Bullseye Movers the crew manager sends operations a picture the moment something breaks, and operations calls the customer within five minutes with a plan, such as sending a chair to the company's furniture repair person. If the repair timeline does not work for the customer, the company orders a replacement and sends someone to assemble it. Campbell says the company will pay for a repair even when the item may have been damaged before the move.

How many Google reviews did Junk Jockey and Bullseye Movers get with Review Harvest?

Campbell says that after 10 years in business the company had about 80 five-star Google reviews. Roughly three weeks after starting Review Harvest, host Clay Lawrence put the count at almost 100 new reviews, and Campbell said the total had doubled in two weeks. The requests to past customers were converting at over 20%, compared with the 10 to 15% Clay normally expects.

Need junk removal in Atlanta? Visit Junk Jockey and Bullseye Movers at thejunkjockey.com.

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