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How Fresh Start Pet Waste Removal Reached 500 Recurring Customers in Under Two Years

Hunter Conley, Owner ·Fresh Start Pet Waste Removal · Austin, TX

Built Local Podcast with Clay Lawrence · · 61 min episode

The short version

Hunter Conley started Fresh Start Pet Waste Removal in Austin, Texas while working 40 to 50 hours a week running marketing and inside sales for a pest control company. Spending roughly $70 to $80 a day on Facebook and Google ads and never pausing them, he reached about 100 customers in two and a half months and more than 500 recurring customers in under two years, with $45,000 in revenue in the month before the interview. Over the same stretch the company went from about five Google reviews to more than 370.

What other owners can take from Fresh Start Pet Waste Removal

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    Do not turn your ads off in the slow season. Lower the spend if you must, but stay on: when competitors pause, you are the only company advertising.

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    A steady, modest budget beat a big one for Fresh Start. Hunter started at $30 to $40 a day on Facebook and $15 to $20 a day on Google and says he has never doubled it.

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    Answer leads fast, sound like a real local person, and follow up more than once. People are busy and forget to reply.

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    Do not send the quote first. Ask questions and find something in common, so most objections are settled before the price arrives.

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    When a lead says they need to talk to their spouse, keep talking: ask what the spouse's main concern was, then answer that.

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    Decide in advance when you will hire. Hunter planned to bring on a part-time employee at 20 customers, which took two or three weeks.

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    Be honest in interviews that the work is hot, messy and stinky, pay well, and let go of people who do not fit.

Who is Hunter Conley, and how did Fresh Start Pet Waste Removal begin?

Hunter Conley started Fresh Start Pet Waste Removal in Austin, Texas as a side business while working 40 to 50 hours a week for a pest control company. He has a marketing degree, sold door to door in college, and then spent five years running marketing and inside sales at a pest control company that he says grew from about $5 or $6 million a year in revenue to around $50 million while he was there.

The idea came from two places: YouTube videos and groups about small service businesses, and coming home from work to see his pregnant wife bending over to pick up after the dog in the backyard. “There must be a need for this,” he thought.

He did the first yards himself, on Saturdays and a few times on his lunch break. He had told himself he would hire a part-time employee at 20 customers. That took two or three weeks.

How much did he spend on ads to get the first 100 customers?

About $70 to $80 a day, paid for out of his day-job income. Hunter put $30 to $40 a day into Facebook ads and $15 to $20 a day into Google ads from the start, which he estimates came to $1,500 to $2,000 in the first month. Fresh Start reached about 100 customers in two and a half months.

He was not sure it would work. Pest control is close to a need; poop scooping, he said, is a want. But customers kept signing up every week, and he decided he would never pause the ads. He says he still has not doubled or tripled that budget. “I’ve just been extremely consistent with that spend.”

His view on bigger budgets is that returns diminish. If doubling spend doubled customers, he said, he would be spending $500 a day and have 5,000 customers. For most pet waste companies he suggests around $30 to $40 a day, and less if a full-time job keeps you from answering leads quickly.

Why does Fresh Start keep advertising in the slow season?

Because the customers who cancel in summer have to be replaced, and because most competitors stop. Hunter said the number one mistake he sees is owners turning ads off when things slow down. In pet waste that is summer, when people move, go on vacation and have kids at home to help.

“For me, if everybody shuts down their ads, what does that mean? I’m the only company advertising. Opportunity.”

He compared pausing to digging a hole at the beach: the water fills it back in, and you spend the busy season catching up. Lower the spend if you have to, he said, but do not shut it off.

How does he turn leads into customers?

Lead follow-up, in his words, “is almost everything.” His process:

  • Answer fast. He replies to leads himself, including at 10 at night if that is when they text.
  • Sound like a person. Emojis, exclamation points, a thank-you, and something in common. People want to buy from a local person, not a robot, which is also why he tells owners to put their own face in their ads instead of AI-generated graphics.
  • Do not send the quote too soon. He calls the opening the connection phase: ask questions and learn what the customer wants, and many objections never come up. Owners who send a price right away, he said, get ghosted.
  • Keep talking after an objection. When someone says they need to talk to their spouse, he asks what the spouse’s main concern was, then answers that.
  • Follow up, more than once. “People are busy,” he said. He needs a couple of reminders himself.

What did 500 recurring customers do for the business?

It made revenue predictable. Fresh Start had 530 to 540 customers at the time of the interview, five full-time employees, and $45,000 in revenue the previous month. Because the service recurs, Hunter said, 500 customers this month means 500 next month “unless we just completely wet the bed.”

He also pointed to reviews. The company had about five when it started with Review Harvest, and he put the count at around 370.

What was the hardest part of growing this fast?

Employees. Hunter said hiring “sucks”: people skip interviews and first days, and you are handing a $25,000 truck that doubles as a moving billboard to someone you barely know. He described taking a call about an employee speeding through a school zone and telling that employee it was a two-strike system.

His approach is to be honest in interviews that the job gets hot, stinky and messy, to pay well and send bonuses and gift cards, and to let go of people who do not fit. “If you’re trying to grow a business and run a business without knowing people, you’re probably going to fail,” he said.

What would he tell someone starting a pet waste business?

Start today, and control the controllables: how much you spend, how many flyers you put out, how fast you respond. You cannot control how many leads come in or who cancels.

Hunter now runs ads for other pet waste companies through his agency, Rise Ads Marketing, and says he has worked with more than 100 of them since January. His benchmark for a new owner is that 100 customers within a year “should absolutely be doable.”

In Hunter's words

“For me, if everybody shuts down their ads, what does that mean? I'm the only company advertising. Opportunity.”
Hunter Conley, Fresh Start Pet Waste Removal▶ 16:25
“I would rather get five or 10 good quality leads and sell one or two of those than get a hundred leads and only sell one or two.”
Hunter Conley, Fresh Start Pet Waste Removal▶ 20:10
“I know with 500 plus customers this month, we're going to have 500 plus customers next month.”
Hunter Conley, Fresh Start Pet Waste Removal▶ 9:32
“Speedy lead, add personality, and then follow up. Follow up, follow up, follow up is everything.”
Hunter Conley, Fresh Start Pet Waste Removal▶ 22:15

Review Harvest Client

What Fresh Start Pet Waste Removal says about Review Harvest

Hunter says Fresh Start had about five Google reviews when it started with Review Harvest, probably from his mom, his wife and a co-worker. In under two years the count passed 370. He says a steady flow of new reviews helps with Google ranking and with trust, because a business whose last review is nine months old makes him wonder whether something changed.

“373 reviews I think we're at now. And obviously five or so when we started with you, and it was probably my mom, my wife, my co-worker.”
Hunter Conley, Fresh Start Pet Waste Removal · hear it at 35:28

Hunter Conley on working with Review Harvest: “How This Pet Waste Removal Business Added 370+ Google Reviews in 21 Months”

Questions this episode answers

How fast can a pet waste removal business get to 100 customers?

Fresh Start Pet Waste Removal in Austin reached about 100 customers in two and a half months, which owner Hunter Conley calls lucky and fast. For a typical new owner he says 100 customers within a year should absolutely be doable: roughly 60 to 70 added in the busier part of the year and 10 to 30 over the summer, as long as you do not pause your marketing.

How much should a pet waste removal business spend on ads?

Hunter Conley started Fresh Start with $30 to $40 a day on Facebook ads and $15 to $20 a day on Google ads, about $1,500 to $2,000 in the first month, and says he has kept the spend consistent rather than multiplying it. For most pet waste companies he suggests around $30 to $40 a day, depending on service area, goals and budget. He warns that doubling spend does not double leads, and that owners with a full-time job who cannot answer leads quickly should spend less.

Should a pet waste removal business pause ads in the summer?

Hunter Conley of Fresh Start Pet Waste Removal says no. Summer is when pet waste customers cancel because they move, travel or have kids home to help, so a company that stops advertising shrinks and has to catch back up in the fall. He recommends lowering the budget if needed but never shutting ads off, and points out that when competitors pause you are the only company advertising.

How do you respond when a lead says they need to talk to their spouse?

Hunter Conley's advice is to keep the conversation going instead of saying "call me back." He asks what the spouse's main concern was when the couple talked about the service, then answers that concern. He also says most objections can be avoided by starting with a connection phase: asking about needs, budget and timing before giving a price.

What is the hardest part of growing a pet waste removal company to 500 customers?

For Fresh Start Pet Waste Removal it was employees. Hunter Conley says people skip interviews and first days, and you are trusting someone you barely know with a $25,000 truck that is a moving billboard for the company. He handles it by being honest about the job in interviews, paying well with bonuses and gift cards, and replacing employees who are not a fit.

How did Fresh Start Pet Waste Removal get more than 370 Google reviews?

Fresh Start had about five Google reviews when it started, one of them from the owner's mom, and grew to around 370 in under two years. Hunter Conley says the company keeps customers happy and uses Review Harvest to send the review requests. He adds that recent reviews matter as much as the total, because a business whose last review is nine months old makes a buyer wonder what changed.

Need pet waste removal in Austin? Visit Fresh Start Pet Waste Removal at freshstartpetwasteremoval.com.

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